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	<description>And so are you</description>
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		<title>By: ALEXANDER</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator>ALEXANDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 21:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this barack bomb bill done out of desperation to make a name for the campane, because he never did anything in the senate but go along to get along Tell me did you ever hear of obama before he became a candidate .                         Go help us if he makes it
                                    I am always happy to see
                                    that Iam wrong</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this barack bomb bill done out of desperation to make a name for the campane, because he never did anything in the senate but go along to get along Tell me did you ever hear of obama before he became a candidate .                         Go help us if he makes it<br />
                                    I am always happy to see<br />
                                    that Iam wrong</p>
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		<title>By: ALEXANDER</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator>ALEXANDER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 04:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. and MRS. america, there is nothing you can do about this. You can write to any REP. OR SEN.the mman or women don&#039;t give a dam about you,your children your dog or cat.You mr. and mrs. america. You are nothing but the road to your bank accout the street to your pocket.They will take your money and they will spend it as they dam well please.Tell us what are you going to do about it.                 NOTHING</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. and MRS. america, there is nothing you can do about this. You can write to any REP. OR SEN.the mman or women don&#8217;t give a dam about you,your children your dog or cat.You mr. and mrs. america. You are nothing but the road to your bank accout the street to your pocket.They will take your money and they will spend it as they dam well please.Tell us what are you going to do about it.                 NOTHING</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel Stone</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazel Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 02:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The verbiage is still unacceptably vague.  End of argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The verbiage is still unacceptably vague.  End of argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Vitruvius</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-981</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, my argument is exactly that.  The bill refers to the Goals in the definition, then mandates a plan to achieve exactly one of them, and precisely defines which one.

No possible reading of that bill produces any other meaning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, my argument is exactly that.  The bill refers to the Goals in the definition, then mandates a plan to achieve exactly one of them, and precisely defines which one.</p>
<p>No possible reading of that bill produces any other meaning.</p>
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		<title>By: BLACK VELVET BRUCE LI : What&#8217;s wrong with the media</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator>BLACK VELVET BRUCE LI : What&#8217;s wrong with the media</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 18:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In an election, a newspaper&#8217;s job is to inform its readers so those readers can make an informed decision on Election Day.  The Post has tried to do that by giving front-page coverage to a major speech by a major candidate, and then not bothered to provide the information voters need to decide how to vote.  (For example, it might be nice for the Post to mention these policies) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In an election, a newspaper&#8217;s job is to inform its readers so those readers can make an informed decision on Election Day.  The Post has tried to do that by giving front-page coverage to a major speech by a major candidate, and then not bothered to provide the information voters need to decide how to vote.  (For example, it might be nice for the Post to mention these policies) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel Stone</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-966</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazel Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 14:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, that is what happens when you quote a biased source.

However.  The summary says this:

&lt;blockquote&gt;To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

And in the definitions of the bill:

&lt;blockquote&gt;(4) MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS- The term `Millennium Development Goals&#039; means the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Now, it might be your argument that the Summary is cherry-picking from the Millenium Development Goals, but the way it is written leaves open the possiblity that the UN could demand the other items from us.  Now, we know the UN has the relative power of a AAA battery, but I&#039;d like to just avoid the entire situation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, that is what happens when you quote a biased source.</p>
<p>However.  The summary says this:</p>
<blockquote><p>To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.</p></blockquote>
<p>And in the definitions of the bill:</p>
<blockquote><p>(4) MILLENNIUM DEVELOPMENT GOALS- The term `Millennium Development Goals&#8217; means the goals set out in the United Nations Millennium Declaration, General Assembly Resolution 55/2 (2000).</p></blockquote>
<p>Now, it might be your argument that the Summary is cherry-picking from the Millenium Development Goals, but the way it is written leaves open the possiblity that the UN could demand the other items from us.  Now, we know the UN has the relative power of a AAA battery, but I&#8217;d like to just avoid the entire situation.</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Vitruvius</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-975</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 13:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m no fan of the UN either, but claiming that this bill has &lt;i&gt;anything&lt;/i&gt; to do with Kyoto, gun control, the ICC (all of which I oppose) or any of the other issues mentioned in the second quote from the main article is misleading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m no fan of the UN either, but claiming that this bill has <i>anything</i> to do with Kyoto, gun control, the ICC (all of which I oppose) or any of the other issues mentioned in the second quote from the main article is misleading.</p>
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		<title>By: Hazel Stone</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator>Hazel Stone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 12:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(The govtrack site was down yesterday when I tried to view the bill verbiage.)
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2433&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Here it is.&lt;/a&gt;

Stated intent:
&lt;blockquote&gt;To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Close enough, as they say, for government work.  The UN belongs nowhere near our money, even by suggestion (especially with a socialist at the helm of the country), and Obama is still desperately searching for something to which he can pin his name...this bill has been around in the same form since &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-3605&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;2005.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(The govtrack site was down yesterday when I tried to view the bill verbiage.)<br />
<a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/billtext.xpd?bill=s110-2433" rel="nofollow">Here it is.</a></p>
<p>Stated intent:</p>
<blockquote><p>To require the President to develop and implement a comprehensive strategy to further the United States foreign policy objective of promoting the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people worldwide, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day.</p></blockquote>
<p>Close enough, as they say, for government work.  The UN belongs nowhere near our money, even by suggestion (especially with a socialist at the helm of the country), and Obama is still desperately searching for something to which he can pin his name&#8230;this bill has been around in the same form since <a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h109-3605" rel="nofollow">2005.</a></p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Vitruvius</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-978</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Vitruvius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 05:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I just went and read the text of the bill as it left the House, and I don&#039;t see any commitments or directives to slave spending to UN dictates.  I also went and read the National Ledger piece quoted above, and I found the card trick.

The bill &lt;i&gt;references&lt;/i&gt; the UN Millennium Development Goals, which in turn contains all sorts of completely unacceptable goals such as are quoted above.  But in no way does the bill mandate or even advocate those other goals be pursued, nor does it mandate  any particular methods (e.g., no spending targets or slaving of spending to UN levels.)  The language is simply not there.

The only mandates are to &lt;i&gt;develop&lt;/i&gt; a plan to address &lt;i&gt;one&lt;/i&gt; of the goals of the UN MDG, specifically, the global poverty goal... and subsequently, to report on the execution of that plan.  Those requirements are in section four of the text.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I just went and read the text of the bill as it left the House, and I don&#8217;t see any commitments or directives to slave spending to UN dictates.  I also went and read the National Ledger piece quoted above, and I found the card trick.</p>
<p>The bill <i>references</i> the UN Millennium Development Goals, which in turn contains all sorts of completely unacceptable goals such as are quoted above.  But in no way does the bill mandate or even advocate those other goals be pursued, nor does it mandate  any particular methods (e.g., no spending targets or slaving of spending to UN levels.)  The language is simply not there.</p>
<p>The only mandates are to <i>develop</i> a plan to address <i>one</i> of the goals of the UN MDG, specifically, the global poverty goal&#8230; and subsequently, to report on the execution of that plan.  Those requirements are in section four of the text.</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://simon-jester.org/2008/02/sir-i-vote-nay/comment-page-1/#comment-977</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2008 02:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve got some thoughts on it &lt;a href=&quot;http://pith-n-vinegar.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-and-un.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve got some thoughts on it <a href="http://pith-n-vinegar.blogspot.com/2008/02/obama-and-un.html" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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